So how long should I be able to keep commercially produced beer (Corona, SweetWater) in my fridge before I should throw it out? I have some stuff which has been in my 'fridge for at least a year, and it seems to be okay. But I'm no connoissuer...
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Mon, December 24, 2007 - 8:37 PMthe answer is you should NEVER keep commercially produced beer in your fridge ever. -
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 10:33 AMYes, of course, of course.
But is there anyone here who can actually answer the question? -
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 10:42 AMYou can answer the question by keeping enough beer from the same lot in your fridge to test periodically til you feel it is undrinkable. Or, you could just depend on what others say about beer and not form your own opinion at all. Me, I'd just chill. -
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Thu, December 27, 2007 - 9:25 PMThe beer is certainly chilling. And as I said, I'm no connoseiur. I just have no point of reference for this thing, no discerning pallette for what's bad, and I'm not enough of a drinker to even want to periodically test the beer. Which is why I asked. But if there is no "rule of thumb" answer, one need only say so. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 2:29 AMWell, the beers you mentioned are not living beers so they'll probably keep longer in a fridge than a beer that has not been fried and homogenized. Assuming the beers you mentioned are fresh, they can keep a couple of days in prime condition and begin to deteriorate until they become the versions of beers you generally find when you walk into a supermarket.
Some beer makers pull their beers once they are no longer up to whatever standard the brewery wishes to maintain. Coors, for example, generally tastes fresher because they pull beer off the shelves if it isn't fresh...or that's the theory anyways; to distribute Coors, you have to agree return beer that is past the pull date codes on them. So, Coors should keep a bit longer once brought home from the store than Corona...because Coors pulls their beers if they aren't fresh--it's a deal they have with distributors...so Coors' customers can know that the beer will be fresh. Other breweries do the same thing...if they care to. Obviously, most beers are not pulled and simply sit around til they're sold...which explains why many people have bad experiences tasting beers--they can't depend on what they're tasting today to be what the a different bottle from a different batch of the same beer from tasting like the next time they buy it.
Good luck, and I hope you can get some good beer really soon. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 8:55 AMThank you. The more I look at this old stock, the more I'm tempted to pour it all out and acquire some better stuff the next time I have beer drinkers in the house. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 12:09 PMYou could taste it and see if it acceptable to use in BBQ basting...but, frankly, if you are into snobbish beering then those beers won't cut it at all. On the other hand, proselytizing beers is often difficult if you are faced by people unwilling to change...and why should they, right? They're happy in their particular beer bath for reasons known only to them...and popular culture.
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 12:18 PMbeer is junk 2-3 months after production (outside of high alcohol brews but even still - they dont taste as good as when fresh despite beer geeks claims of cellaring beers...) -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 12:34 PMWrong, boy-o. You've obviously never tasted a good cellared beer. Or are trolling. Whatever. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 12:41 PMno trolling and yeah i've had lots and lots of cellared beer
taste is a very subjective thing
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 1:25 PMI've tasted beers, especially home brew beers, that tasted better after they'd sat for a year or two and mellowed out...your mileage may vary. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 2:35 PMAlaskan smoked porter hits it prime taste 7 years after bottling.
Many, many a brew are aged ( a year or more) even before they come out to the store. -
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Fri, December 28, 2007 - 2:45 PMI'd cellar beer if I could, alas I don't have the money to build a cellar or the willpower to let beer sit nearby without drinking it.
This brings to mind when I lived in a so-called "hippie house" and we'd all pitch on drinks. The 7-11 by our house had gotten a huge shipment of Mendocino's Red Tail Ales around Thanksgiving. As Beer Snobs should know, Ales get stronger as they age, and so by the time Spring Break is coming around and there are still Red Tail Ale 6-packs at the 7-11 from that shipment for the sweet price of $6.50, that was almost all we would buy. That shit'll get you drunk! And it tastes wonderful, too. -
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Sat, December 29, 2007 - 3:05 PM"alas I don't have the money to build a cellar or the willpower to let beer sit nearby without drinking it. "
LOL! That's my problem too...
Luckily I have some friends who are mad beer collectors with much more self control (and money) than I have.
One of the best beers I've ever had was DeDolle's 20th anniversary beer (a Flemish Sour) - it was 7 years old and Amazing!
I've had home brewed Ales that were 6,7 and 8 years old that held up just fine.
Ive had Harvey's vintage stouts from 1999, 2000 and 2001 that were terrific too, but ive also had ones that had definitley passed their prime, probably due to how they were stored over the years.
I've seen vintage Aventinus bottles out there too (only a couple years old, but I think they are going to be releasing some every year over the next few years), but have not tried them yet.
The truth is, some beers can take it, some can't. DeDolle (one of my all time favorite breweries) says they celler a portion of every batch of "Stille Nacht" they make and sample them periodically. They say the old ones keep getting better. Ive had a 2 year old Stille Nacht Reserve and it gave me goosbumps it was so good. The problem is, except for the "Special Reserva" line, their beers are not dated so you never know how how old they are when you buy them. How long did the beer wait to leave Belgium? how long did it spend on a ship? waiting to get through customs? in the importer's warehouse? in the distributor's warehouse? in the liquour store's warehouse? on the shelf?
The corona mentioned in the first post probably cant too much aging, but it wasnt any good to begin with, so no real harm done. Things you want to avoid are, light (corona is in clear bottles, so it is extra prone to light damage) and temperature fluctuations, (once you chill a beer, keep it cold untill you drink it)
The beers that can take the ageing and hold up (or even get better) are going to be the BIG BIG beers, especailly the high gravity strong ales. Of course, IPAs were made speciafically to hold up on the trip to India from the breweries in England. How long did that take to make the cruise? Beats me, I'd be interested to find out, but thats why they were stronger and hoppier. Here in the states, we like our IPAs fresh though, with that crisp hop bite and aroma. If you drink a fresh IPA next to the same beer thats been aged a year or 2 you will find the older one will have mellowed out A LOT, the aroma, especially of a dry hopped IPA will diminish pretty quickly and the bitternes will fade over time, but you will still have a perfectly drinkable beer, and probably somthing closer to what the british colonials were drinking in India back when the style was invented (without getting into the differences in the new world hops in our american IPAs and the old world they were using in the days of the "empire")
As maybe you can tell, im bored and rambling on a rainy saturday afternoon, maybe i should go out for a pint...
Cheers! -
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Sun, December 30, 2007 - 5:17 PMhad some Delirium Noel last night, tap version .. oh heavens .
mmm
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Wed, January 2, 2008 - 12:41 PMAt Beer World in Rochester, NY, they have 5-7 oz bottles of beers that are often 20 years old and cost upwards of $150 per. I've never had one but I hear that some of those beers are pretty darn good...anyone else on this tribe tried those old Scot Ales and other premium gift beers in the small bottles? I'm not sure if they're even still made...anyone know? -
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Fri, January 25, 2008 - 10:53 AMLambic's especially can be laid down for years and get better with time. I have seen bottles that have "use by" dates in the 2020's. I should live so long.
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